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Ask the Vet About Kidney Disease in Dogs and Cats

Kidney Disease in Dogs and Cats
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Ask the Vet About Kidney Disease in Dogs and Cats
MichaelDym, V.M.D.
Michael Dym, V.M.D.
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As a practicing veterinarian, Dr. Dym has over 19 years of experience and dedication to enhancing the overall health and well-being of pets. His commitment and passion for pet health continuously drives him to learn more about the art and science of homeopathy through ongoing training and education.

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Date: May 9, 2017
Category: Kidney Disease
Pet Type: Dog
Topic: kidney/blood in stool/high leukocytes

Question:14 1/4 year old yorkie. Recently became extremely picky, even at times not wanting to eat. Has severe arthitis and diagnosed with early kidney failure about 1 1/2 years go. Has been eating k/d diet until about 1 week ago. I started feeding him smaller amounts of homemade food that he would eat most of the time. He is still eating the smaller amounts, but I just started making it half homemade diet/half k/d to hopefully switch him back to his k/d diet fully. He is very slow, but has improved the way he appears to feel since last Tuesday which was at an all time low. I found a new (still warm) urine puddle on the floor. I know it wouldn't be considered a sterile sample, but that would be impossible for me to do. I tried to only touch the top of the puddle with the urinalysis stick. Everything seemed fine except - bilirubin 30s which matched the "small 17" and then the leukocytes 120s which matched the highest level on the chart "large 500". Also, yesterday I noticed what look like blood & mucus on his formed stool. And then again today so I took a sample of that up to the vet. I know I will know in a few hours and I am pretty much fearing the worst because of everything that has preceded the recent to things. I have an appointment with the vet today, but I am just curious of your thoughts. Does this sound like cancer? And any questions that would be good for me to ask the vet? Thank you.

Answer:It doesn't necessarily sound like cancer - he may just have a urinary tract infection and an upset stomach. Since his stomach is kind of upset you may want to ask if they have a long-acting injecteable antibiotic that won't further upset his stomach (Convenia). They may put him on metronidazole for his upset stomach too but that will depend on a lot of things. You may want to ask them if they carry Purina's kidney diet as an option to mix in - but wait until his stomach goes back to normal.

Date: May 5, 2017
Category: Kidney Disease
Pet Type: Dog
Topic: Follow up to: Jill Coleman, DVM

Question:To: Jill Coleman, DVM Thank you for answering my questions. I like to understand how things work, especially with health so I have a few more follow ups. So when you (really whether a dog or human for that instance) increase fluid intake into the body (whether it is subcutaneous fluids or a person drinking more water) that helps rid the body of the toxins floating around even if the kidneys are going downhill? Can I use Azodyl & Epakitin WITH the Calcium Carbonate I am giving him now? How long does it take to start working and possibly see improvement? Are there any other supplements you think he should be on? He has the prescription Cerenia tablets, but are there any other over the counter options available that may prevent nausea? The vet only suggested the k/d diet and lots of fluid back in January. However, the latest changes of not wanting to eat like he used to (2 k/d meals a day) is something that just started on Tuesday. Since he looked so bad on Tuesday that I thought he may need to be put down soon, I wanted to see if there are any other options and it seems there are. Please note my husband was raised in the country where you just got a new dog if yours get sick and not spend a bunch of money on animals so I have to keep that in mind and cant be rushing to the vet often. Even though I dont feel that way I do have to keep that in mind. I have found an article on low phosphorus home cooked dog food since he wont eat the k/d food anymore. So hopefully your information with these supplements will help. You gave me some hope that there are a few other options I can try. Thank you so much for help.

Answer:1 - "So when you (really whether a dog or human for that instance) increase fluid intake into the body (whether it is subcutaneous fluids or a person drinking more water) that helps rid the body of the toxins floating around even if the kidneys are going downhill?" Yes, kind of, or it dilutes them out to the point where they don't build up in the bloodstream and make him nauseous. 2 - Can I use Azodyl & Epakitin WITH the Calcium Carbonate? You can give Azodyl with the calcium carbonate but Epakitin has it in it so you wouldnt want to with Epakitin. 3 - How long to see improvement? That varies with every dog to days or a week or so and it's nothing dramatic - they basically make him feel a little better as the kidney disease progresses. 4 - Over the counter alternatives to Cerenia? Nothing works anywhere near as well as cerenia tablets for nausea that I have found 5 - There are other prescription diets formulated for dogs with kidney disease that may be worth trying to see if he likes them - Purina's is called NF. Blue Buffalo came out with one recently called KS too. It's hard to get a homemade diet balanced but that is an option as well 6 - Good Luck!

Date: May 5, 2017
Category: Kidney Disease
Pet Type: Dog
Topic: Kidney failure

Question:I was told my 14.25-year-old Yorkshire Terrier has chronic kidney failure. This was first diagnosed by chance 1 years go (although they thought at that time it may just be dehydration). In January his BUN was still a bit high, but the vet said early kidney disease (BUN 38.3, creatinine 1.1). His eyesight is not very good and sometimes seems to be better than other time (is this normal?). He has had cateracts for many years now so I am not sure if it is that or the kidney failure. He also has severe arthritis. He has slowed down a lot with is age, but was still acting comfortable and even excited about things. He had been on the k/d diet (half dry/half wet). However, about 3 days ago he became extremely picky about eating and acted pretty lethargic and like he was in pain (he does take rimadyl & tramadol daily for his arthritis). So much so I was thinking we may have to put him down soon. He will no longer eat any of his k/d food. In fact, he looks like he may be nauseated because of the way he sometimes tries to eat and then moves his head away. The vet did give me some Certnia which I gave him yesterday but I could not tell if that really changed anything. I feel like what has helped the most is offering variety of foods in small amounts throughout the day. He looks to be more comfortable and pretty much the same behavior as he was before the pickiness started. He will eat the cesears steak dog food and I made him boiled carrots/chicken/rice and he will eat that. But anytime he eats, he eats about of what he use to eat at a sitting. He will also eat some carrots/apples during the day. I have been able to get him to eat enough by giving him many opportunities to eat. And since he is not eating the k/d food, I added some calcium carbonate with his meals to hopefully cut down on his phosphorus. I just started giving him bottled water (not sure of quantity because we have another dog/cat that are also drinking). Also, his urine is a normal color (not too light or dark). And I am starting to add a fish oil capsule to his diet. Maybe this is more information that you need, but I have a question that I thought that the background may help you understand. I understand that kidney disease is irreversible and will only get worse over time. But my question is if some of these changes do help and not as many toxins are released into the body - what happens to the toxins already in the body? Do they work their way out naturally? I know we cannot pay for dialysis for him, but I am just wondering if there is a little hope for him to feel better with changes I have made. Thank you.

Answer:At his age, I would expect his eyesight to not be what it was when he was younger and just like older humans, they seem to have good days and bad days - that is probably more a result of the cataracts than the kidney disease especially if his blood pressure isn't elevated. Consider giving him subcutaneous fluids as a cheap form of dialysis - it really shouldn't be that expensive and some owners can do it at home. Other things that may help him are Azodyl and/or Epakitin - you can read more about them with these links: http://www.1800petmeds.com/Azodyl-prod10986.html and http://www.1800petmeds.com/Epakitin+Powder-prod11134.html

Date: Apr 10, 2017
Category: Kidney Disease
Pet Type: Cat
Topic: Early stage of kidney disease in cats

Question:My cat is about 15 years old and he's just been diagnosed with an early stage of kidney disease. Could you please recommend what's the right levels of phosphorus and sodium (on a dry matter basis) are good for him in both canned and dry food? Also what should be the right amount of protein in his dry food? Thank you in advance for your help.

Answer:Rather than going strictly by a % of protein, phosphorus and/or sodium, I prefer to see how cats with renal failure do on specific diets in proven trials and over time - like, do my patients do well on them. Everyone wants to make their cat's own food or grab a food off the grocery store shelf with a certain % protein but a lot of research goes into the prescription diets that are formulated and approved for cats with renal failure - they are more expensive for this reason, but they are proven and I trust them because I have seen them work over many years and many patients.

Date: Mar 19, 2017
Category: Kidney Disease
Pet Type: Dog
Topic: Diet

Question:Do I just give my dog K/D Canned and Dry Dog food and NOTHING ELSE. Can treats i.e. , milk bones, greenies and other treats bought at the pet store be given? Also what about people food. I had been giving him white tuna in water, salmon, Frosty Paws etc. Also Beef Marrow Bones (frozen and I cook them in boiling water for 5 mins. There isn't any meat on them, but the marrow inside he loves and chewing on the bone should be good for his teeth. Thank you.

Answer:If you just had her diagnosed, I would just do the K/D pretty strictly for a while until you have her rechecked and see how her kidney values are doing. You can take the canned food and bake her some crunchy cookies until your recheck. (It will kind of stink up the kitchen, lol)

Date: Feb 13, 2017
Category: Kidney Disease
Pet Type: Dog
Topic: Understanding Kidney Disease in Dogs

Question:My dog was recently diagnosed with Kidney, her BUN is 30 and creatinine level 1.6, we will retest in June. She doesn't particularly care for the Royal Canine wet food D, and the dry A, do you have any suggestions of what I can add to make it easier for her to eat. She eventually does, but my vet wants her to eat 2 times a day, any suggestions?

Answer:You can try adding some sort of doggy spice flavorings which may help such as Halo's dinner party which you can find on ilne. You can also ask vet about other prescription diets like HIlls K/D wet food or even consider proper home made diet, the latter, which is ideal and best. See the kidney diet recipe in the book Dr Pitcairn;s guide to natural health for dogs and cats by Richard PItcairn, DVM, phd which has great kidney diet recipe. You can also likely access this recipe on line. MAny dogs prefer the fresh, nonprocessed home versions of kidney diets

Date: Feb 9, 2017
Category: Kidney Disease
Pet Type: Cat
Topic: subq fluids

Question:If I incorrectly insert the needle to administer subq fluids to a cat, will it kill him?

Answer:Should not be a problem. NO risk to the cat

Date: Feb 6, 2017
Category: Kidney Disease
Pet Type: Dog
Topic: Diagnosis

Question:I was reading the articles posted on the Pet Meds website One mentioned that a possible cause of kidney disease in dogs is periodontal disease. First, I assume this means poor care leading to infectious gums and bone to some degree. Is this assumption correct? If so, how bad does the periodontal disease have to be before it becomes a factor? How often is periodontal disease the root cause of kidney disease? Can my vet determine if this is/was the root cause?

Answer:Your vet can definitely try to get to the root cause. I recommend that you schedule an appointment with your Veterinarian at your earliest convenience.You can book a vet house call at http://bit.ly/2k0cWop Shanna Harris, Veterinary Technician

Date: Feb 5, 2017
Category: Kidney Disease
Pet Type: Dog
Topic: Kidney Disease stage 2

Question:My 12 year dog has stage 2 Kidney disease his vet give 1 injection of fluids under skin put him on prednisone 5 MG to give him an appetite but has done any other treatment what can I do he has lost a lot of weight not eating good at all doesn't drink a lot I give him water with a syringe through out the day she has him on none. Of the medications I am seeing please help

Answer:Sounds like your dog needs to have a few DAYS of IV fluids and supportive care for kidney disease, BEFOre at home care is started so he can be stabilized and eating. AFTER that you can continue supportive care at home with SUBQ fluids given at home, which vet can show you, as well as appetite stimulants, nausea meds, etc. Not sure why a prednisone tablet was prescribed for a dog with kidney disease. You can also get another opinion from local vet in your community. For now, try pepcid AC at dose of 10 mg once to twice daily until you can see a vet.

Date: Jan 18, 2017
Category: Kidney Disease
Pet Type: Cat
Topic: Propofol overdose euthanasia.

Question:Hello, I have seen your answer. Thanks a lot for that. The reason why I write again is actually because - we don't have barbiturates in Russia. They're not allowed for use in veterinary medicine. That's why I was interested in alternative ways.

Answer:I cant comment on using overdose of propofol in this way, as I have no experience with that protocol, as well as this should be done, in any event, under the care and supervision of a local veterinary health care practitioner in your area.

Date: Jan 16, 2017
Category: Kidney Disease
Pet Type: Cat
Topic: Propofol overdose euthanasia.

Question:Hello, my cat is at the late stage of the kidney disease. So, I'm already trying to find out about the painless euthanasia. So, my question is: Is it painless to euthanise a cat only with propofol? Overdose. I'm worried because propofol doesn't have analgesic effects, so I am not quite sure if the death caused by the propofol overdose would be painless. But at the same time the cat will be unconscious. So, could you please clarify? Thank you.

Answer:In my experience and opinion propofol is only good for pre euthanasia anesthesia or calming. I would go to your local vet for approved IV barbituate euthanasia done by licensed vet

Date: Aug 20, 2016
Category: Kidney Disease
Pet Type: Dog
Topic: Kidney

Question:Would A Brat Diet Help Our Dog Get Appetite Back?

Answer:Not Sure What You Are Asking But You Need To Be Having Kidney Disease Addressed At Local Vet In Your Area Via Fluids, Etc Appetite Stimulants Like Mirtazipine Can Sometimes Help

Date: Feb 26, 2016
Category: Kidney Disease
Pet Type: Dog
Topic: Cvd And Chf

Question:My Dog Has Been Diagnosed With Cvd And Chf. He Was Given Lasix And Pimebentan. When He Got The Meds Administered At The Vet Hospital, He Was Like A New Dog, But Now, I'm Having Trouble Giving Him The Meds At Home. He Won't Eat And Won't Open His Mouth When I Try To Give Him The Meds. He Also Wants To Sit, Instead Of Lay Down. Is There Anything I Can Do?

Answer:I Would Check With 1800petmeds And/or Your Vet And/or Local Compounding Pharmacy In Your Area, To See Who Can Make Them Into Easy To Administer Flavored Liquids. Some Pharmacies Can Even Make Them Into Transdermal Formulation To Be Absorbed Through The Skin. Vet Recheck Recommended To Make Sure No Secondary Kidney Or Other Issues From Lasix Therapy Or Heart Disease

Date: Mar 12, 2013
Category: Kidney Disease
Pet Type: Cat
Topic: Kidney And Liver Disease

Question:I Have A 17 Year Old Male Cat Who Has Had Seizures Since Labor Day Weekend 2012 (after A Dose Of Revolution??) he Has Been A Natural Indoor Outdoor Cat Since Birth-still Has Nails Etc. His Diet Has Been About 3/4 Cup Dry Cat Food With Wet Food "treat" 1/2 Can A Day When Giving The Medicine. since September He Has Been On Phenobarbitol 1/2 Tab Twice A Day. The Diagnosis Has Been Probable Brain Tumor. Also Kidney Disease Creatinine 2.17/bun 59, And Liver Enzymes Elevated At Last Check Up. He Also Had Seizures In Dec. After Trying To Wean Him Off Phenobarbitol. Two Weeks Ago He Had More Seizures. Now They Want Him On A Prescription Diet -kd And Supplements ( Vit B And Iron). i Consulted The Woman Who Wrote The Natural Cat-she Recommended We Make His Food-raw Foods Diet (i Have Not Been Able To Find The Calcium Powder To Add To It). she Also Recommended A Stress Formula Supplement-high Vit C For Periodontal Disease (he Has Lost Teeth) And Vt B Complex. we Have A Store That Sells Instinct Raw Foods Diet For Cats And Dogs. i Am Totally Confused. today I Want To Begin To Switch Him To A More Natural Diet. our Goal-keep Him Comfortable And As Healthy As Possible Until We Are Ready For Gentle Euthenasia. he Likes To Eat, Drinks And Urinates Profusely But Always In The Litter Box, Poops Formed Once A Day. He Is Still Social But Lethargic. does Not Go Outside For Any Length Of Time Anymore-no Need For Revolution Anymore. thank You, mary

Answer:Hi Mary.....i Would Follow Anitra Frazier,S Recommendations Regarding Your Cat's Diet And Supplements. If You Have Any Questions, Phone Her Back For Clarification. Instincts Raw Foods Is Ok For Cats And Dogs But What Anitra Will Tell You Is Likely Superior. Not Sure Where The Confusion Comes In . You Can Find Calcium Powder From Website Www.animalessentials.com Which Has Excellent Vegetable Source Of Calcium.

Date: Dec 7, 2008
Category: Kidney Disease
Pet Type: Cat
Topic: Weight Loss.

Question:My Cat Is Peeing Too Much,He Is Alwais Very, Very Thirsty, And He Is Losing Weight. Do You Can Tell Me If You Know Any Illness With These Symtoms? Thank You. Angela

Answer:Many Possibilities. Diseases That Need To Be Ruled Out With Blood And Urine Done At Vet Include Diabetes, Kidney Disease, Liver Disease And Overactive Thyroid Gland. Then Write Back So I Can Advise.


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